VintageKustom.com
VintageKustom.com is your source for literature and information on the tuck-and-roll vintage Kustom amps from the 60's and 70's, as well as their related products such as guitars and organs . We provide a webboard for help with kustom gear history, technical information and repairs as well as discussions with other collectors.

Home » VintageKustom.com » Comment Board » Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV
Show: Today's Messages :: Polls :: Message Navigator
Switch to threaded view of this topic Create a new topic Submit Reply
Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV [message #3234] Wed, 12 November 2003 10:34 Go to next message
jandeman
Messages: 1
Registered: November 2003
Junior Member
Hi, I'm Jan from Belgium. Recently I've bought a Kustom III Bass Amp Head and a Kustom IV B 2-15 Bass Cabinet. I love the sound of this gear but I have no technical information at all. Can anyone help me out here? 1. How many power has the Kustom III bass amp head? Is it 200 Watts? 2. And the B 2-15 bass cabinet (designed for the Kustom IV Bass amp head)? 300 watts? 3. ??WHAT ABOUT IMPEDANCE?? Does anyone know the ohm rating of the speaker cabinet? If it's 8 ohms, can I connect an amp head which has an impedance of 4 ohms? Greetings from Brussels, Jan
Re: Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV [message #3235 is a reply to message #3234] Wed, 12 November 2003 23:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LesS is currently offline  LesS
Messages: 478
Registered: December 2002
Senior Member
Hi, Jan, Hopefully someone will jump in with a more complete answer but this will get you started: Kustom III is 130 watts. I have seen it with 2x15 and 4x12 so it probably runs fine at 4 ohms. I don’t know the Kustom 2-15 bass cabinet impedance (it is probably 4 ohms) but if you can’t find out, open the back – the impedance is sometimes printed on the speakers, or you can check it with a meter. Keep in mind that the speakers and/or wiring could have been changed since it was new. A Kustom “8 ohm head” (such as K100 series) will run at 8 ohms through 16 ohms (or even higher). A Kustom “4 ohm head” (such as K200 series) will run at 4 ohms through 16 ohms (or even higher) So, yes, if the amp head will run at 4 ohms you can connect it to speaker that is 8 ohms. Also, you might want to see how hot the amplifier gets - if the impedance of the speaker cabinet is too low for the amp, the amp will run very hot. Hope this helps....... -Les from Connecticut, U.S.
Re: Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV [message #3237 is a reply to message #3235] Thu, 13 November 2003 07:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
stevem is currently offline  stevem
Messages: 4775
Registered: June 2004
Location: NY
Senior Member
Hello. If you can get your hands on a multi-meter, set it for ohms. Plug a speaker cord into the cabinet and hold the meter leads across the tip and shaft portion of the plug. If the cabinet is set for 8 ohms the meter will read something lower than 8 ohms, but more than 4 ohms. If it reads less than 4 ohms it is a 4 wired to be 4 ohms.If you hook up a 4 ohm rated output solid state amp to a 8 ohm cabinet you will get about half the amount of wattage at 8 ohms as the amp was rated for at 4 ohms. As far as I have seen with kustom amps, a 200 watt head was always matched to a 4 ohm cabinet.Never run a Kustom head into two 4 ohm cabinets, the head would be running into almost a dead short.
Re: Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV [message #3238 is a reply to message #3237] Thu, 13 November 2003 23:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LesS is currently offline  LesS
Messages: 478
Registered: December 2002
Senior Member
Hey, Jan, Check out this website: http://www.broadwaymusicco.com/kustom3.htm The Kustom III bass amp and speaker is there along with the IV. The III speaker is 4 ohms so that confirms that the III amp can run at 4 ohms. The IV amp was 276 watts so your IV speaker handles at least that much power. The IV 4x12 cabinet was 4 ohms but it doesn’t mention the IV 2x15. -Les S.
Re: Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV [message #3242 is a reply to message #3238] Sun, 16 November 2003 22:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pleat is currently offline  pleat
Messages: 1454
Registered: June 2004
Location: Belding, Mi
Senior Member
The IV kustom bass amp was actually two of the 130 power modules housed in one chassis, just like the older K400 heads, housed two of the K200 power modules. The 130 power amps used in the tolex covered amps was a generic 130 watt power amp used in the lead 3, the bass 3, the 3PA head, and the 3 monitor amp. The only difference was the front panel controls. These amps are 135 watts into a 4 ohm load and will run higher impedances, but don't run into a lower than a 4 ohm load. The 4x12 lead cabinet had one speaker jack and was wired for 4 ohms. The big difference was the 4x12 lead and bass cabinets for the IV heads. Those cabinets have two speaker jacks, each pair of 12 inch speakers are wired to each of the two jacks. and each jack was a 4 ohm load to the IV bass or lead heads. The IV bass and lead heads had two of the 130 power amps in the head and required two speaker cords to connect both amps to the cabinets. The lead IV and bass IV cabinets were also offered with Electo Voice SRO speakers as a option. Hope this helps clarify that series of amps and cabinets. Don
Re: Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV [message #15353 is a reply to message #3242] Fri, 04 March 2011 14:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
KUSTOMBASS is currently offline  KUSTOMBASS
Messages: 15
Registered: July 2007
Location: NL
Junior Member
pleat wrote on Sun, 16 November 2003 22:44
The big difference was the 4x12 lead and bass cabinets for the IV heads. Those cabinets have two speaker jacks, each pair of 12 inch speakers are wired to each of the two jacks. and each jack was a 4 ohm load to the IV bass or lead heads. The IV bass and lead heads had two of the 130 power amps in the head and required two speaker cords to connect both amps to the cabinets. The lead IV and bass IV cabinets were also offered with Electo Voice SRO speakers as a option. Hope this helps clarify that series of amps and cabinets.
Don

Hi Don, i will probaly get my LONG awaited Kustom IV Basshead tomorrow (looking for that since 2006), but according to your info, i can't use my Peavey 215 cabinet, for that has only one jackinput?
Excuses for my crapy english, but i'm dutch. Very Happy

Have a nice weekend!

MVD
Re: Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV [message #15356 is a reply to message #15353] Fri, 04 March 2011 21:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pleat is currently offline  pleat
Messages: 1454
Registered: June 2004
Location: Belding, Mi
Senior Member
You can use your peavey 2x15 cabinet with the Kustom lV Bass head. You can use either speaker output jack to power the cabinet but won't get the full output unless you add a second 4 ohm cabinet to the unused speaker jack.
pleat
Re: Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV [message #15359 is a reply to message #15356] Sat, 05 March 2011 10:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
KUSTOMBASS is currently offline  KUSTOMBASS
Messages: 15
Registered: July 2007
Location: NL
Junior Member
Thank, just picked it up today. The advert said it came with an 4x12 cab., but it turned out to be a MASSIVE 4 x 15 cab. Good Lord. Shocked
At the back of the top there are 2 speaker outputs, and 2 DIN outputs. Are these original? The cabinet has also 2 DIN inputs.
And i wondered if there is way, to use the full power of the amp, using only one cab. Like a cable with two jacks at one side, and 1 jack at the other?

It sound really good. And i'm so happy with it, Kustom fan as i am. Smile

[Updated on: Sat, 05 March 2011 10:08]

Report message to a moderator

Re: Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV [message #15360 is a reply to message #15359] Sat, 05 March 2011 12:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pleat is currently offline  pleat
Messages: 1454
Registered: June 2004
Location: Belding, Mi
Senior Member
It's hard to say anything about the din plugs since I don't have any photo's to look at. It may be something that Kustom did for export models, I just don't know.
I've never seen a 4x15 Kustom cabinet for that series amp. The cabinet designed for use with that amp here in the states is a 4x12 cabinet. Each two speakers are 8 ohms and wired in parallel for a 4 ohm load. Same with the last two speakers that drive the other amp inside the chassis.
Not knowing how your cabinet is wired or the impedance of each speaker. It may be wired inside that each pair of speakers goes to one speaker jack and you will have to use two speaker cables to hook up everything.
Guess we need more info on how everything is wired inside the cabinet and if the amp is a true export model. You can send me photos at djt@chartermi.net if you have some.
pleat
Re: Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV [message #15367 is a reply to message #3234] Sat, 05 March 2011 14:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
stevem is currently offline  stevem
Messages: 4775
Registered: June 2004
Location: NY
Senior Member
There are only two companys that I have ever known to make production 4-15" cabs and that was Sunn and Acoustic.
Re: Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV [message #15368 is a reply to message #15360] Sat, 05 March 2011 14:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
KUSTOMBASS is currently offline  KUSTOMBASS
Messages: 15
Registered: July 2007
Location: NL
Junior Member
Here are some (crapy) pictures i'd just made. Haven't had the time to open the amp up. http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k618/MVD1974/IMG_2679.jp g
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k618/MVD1974/IMG_2674.jp g

But i was wondering, isn't it the same story with other tops from the same decade (Peavey etc.). They have also 2 speakeroutputs. The story sometimes told is that you can only get the full power of the amp by using 2 speakers. Top = 200 watt, but when you use 1 speaker, you'll only get 100 watt. But that's not true. As far as i can hear is the Kustom IV, with just one cabinet far louder than the Kustom IV.
Interesting stuff! Like it a lot.

How are they made, the top contains 2 x Kustom III, but there's also 2 chanels. Is one channel 130 watts?

And i was thinking (argh, it's hard to explain in english!), it is possible to change my Peavey 215 cab in a way that i can connect the two ouputs to the speakers. I like the Peavey 215. The Kustom 4-15 is really bizar.

[Updated on: Sat, 05 March 2011 14:33]

Report message to a moderator

Re: Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV [message #15369 is a reply to message #15367] Sat, 05 March 2011 14:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
KUSTOMBASS is currently offline  KUSTOMBASS
Messages: 15
Registered: July 2007
Location: NL
Junior Member
stevem wrote on Sat, 05 March 2011 14:21
There are only two companys that I have ever known to make production 4-15" cabs and that was Sunn and Acoustic.


I was also quite surprised.
But the label on the back is genuie Kustom.
It says: Model 4-15 bass. Serialnumber: 1622226
Re: Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV [message #15370 is a reply to message #3234] Sat, 05 March 2011 15:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
KUSTOMBASS is currently offline  KUSTOMBASS
Messages: 15
Registered: July 2007
Location: NL
Junior Member
Hey there, here are some pictures from the inside:

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k618/MVD1974/IMG_2681.jp g
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k618/MVD1974/IMG_2687.jp g
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k618/MVD1974/IMG_2688.jp g
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k618/MVD1974/IMG_2689.jp g
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k618/MVD1974/IMG_2690.jp g
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k618/MVD1974/IMG_2691.jp g
Re: Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV [message #15371 is a reply to message #15368] Sat, 05 March 2011 16:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pleat is currently offline  pleat
Messages: 1454
Registered: June 2004
Location: Belding, Mi
Senior Member
Very interesting amp! I see it is a export model from the photo on the back that shows the speaker outputs and voltage requirements. You have what we call the Big K model.

My advise was based on the model previous to yours was labeled the same lVB and had two two channels, a 7 band graphic EQ, and two 130 watt rms power amps housed in the chassis and you had to use two speaker cables to the 4x12 speaker cabinet so each pair of speakers were driven by each internal amp. (think of it as a stereo amp that runs as a mono amp.)

Your model has two 1/4" speaker outs and what we would call XLR jacks. I am looking at my literature on your amp, and it states 300 watts RMS into 4 ohms. From your photo's it appears to be one power amp. The catalog shows your amp is sitting on a 2x15 cabinet. My literature does not show your cabinet. If your speakers are 16 ohms and wired in series, you would have a 4 ohm cabinet and there would be no need to add a second cabinet.

I left selling Kustoms in late 1979 and your cabinet may have came out after I left the music store.
The blank metal plate on the front panel was a cover plate that you could buy two options and plug into the amp. A 5 band rotary EQ and a patch panel to insert effects and choose what channel you wanted the effects to run to.

As far as any amp. If the amps states 200 watts into a 4 ohm load, if you have a 8 ohm load, the amp will not produce the stated 200 watts.

pleat



Re: Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV [message #15374 is a reply to message #15371] Sun, 06 March 2011 12:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
KUSTOMBASS is currently offline  KUSTOMBASS
Messages: 15
Registered: July 2007
Location: NL
Junior Member
pleat wrote on Sat, 05 March 2011 16:27
Very interesting amp! I see it is a export model from the photo on the back that shows the speaker outputs and voltage requirements. You have what we call the Big K model.

My advise was based on the model previous to yours was labeled the same lVB and had two two channels, a 7 band graphic EQ, and two 130 watt rms power amps housed in the chassis and you had to use two speaker cables to the 4x12 speaker cabinet so each pair of speakers were driven by each internal amp. (think of it as a stereo amp that runs as a mono amp.)

Your model has two 1/4" speaker outs and what we would call XLR jacks. I am looking at my literature on your amp, and it states 300 watts RMS into 4 ohms. From your photo's it appears to be one power amp. The catalog shows your amp is sitting on a 2x15 cabinet. My literature does not show your cabinet. If your speakers are 16 ohms and wired in series, you would have a 4 ohm cabinet and there would be no need to add a second cabinet.

I left selling Kustoms in late 1979 and your cabinet may have came out after I left the music store.
The blank metal plate on the front panel was a cover plate that you could buy two options and plug into the amp. A 5 band rotary EQ and a patch panel to insert effects and choose what channel you wanted the effects to run to.

As far as any amp. If the amps states 200 watts into a 4 ohm load, if you have a 8 ohm load, the amp will not produce the stated 200 watts.

pleat





Hey thanks a lót for the info. I just got my Peavey 215 cab and is sounds really good together. The cab is 200 watt @ 4 Ohm, so i'm fine. The head is realy brutal. It is even broader than the 215 Peavey cab. Within a couple of weeks we are doing some gigs, i'm really anxious to hear the sound at a serious volume. Well, scared that is...
Before the time i need to clean and check the head for is has a hiss when it's used.
So. I'll keep you lads (male / female) informed.
Regards from a cold but sunny place in the Netherlands!

[Updated on: Sun, 06 March 2011 12:22]

Report message to a moderator

Re: Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV [message #15375 is a reply to message #3234] Mon, 07 March 2011 11:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chicagobill
Messages: 2006
Registered: April 2003
Senior Member
Wow, that's one massive power amp! I did a quick review of the photos, and here's my 2 cents.

The XLR jacks were added after it left the factory, definitely not original.

The photo shows that the current speakers are wired in series. You need to check the impedance of each of the individual speakers and see how you can wire the cabinet to take full advantage of the power of the head.

And Pleat erred in his last post, if all four 16 ohm speakers are wired in parallel they will equal 4 ohms, not series.
Re: Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV [message #15376 is a reply to message #15375] Mon, 07 March 2011 14:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
KUSTOMBASS is currently offline  KUSTOMBASS
Messages: 15
Registered: July 2007
Location: NL
Junior Member
chicagobill wrote on Mon, 07 March 2011 11:50
Wow, that's one massive power amp! I did a quick review of the photos, and here's my 2 cents.

The XLR jacks were added after it left the factory, definitely not original.

The photo shows that the current speakers are wired in series. You need to check the impedance of each of the individual speakers and see how you can wire the cabinet to take full advantage of the power of the head.

And Pleat erred in his last post, if all four 16 ohm speakers are wired in parallel they will equal 4 ohms, not series.


Jep, it's really a monster. I like it a lot. Also because of the complete lack of design whatsoever. It's just what it is, a box with knobs.
About the 4-15, i'm getting rid of it. I'm going to take out the speakers (those are not original), and keep them for "just in case". A guy i know is a HUGE Kustom fan/freak. Blue Cheer lover, Stoner etc. and very serious, and with a tremendous amlifier collection. Also a lot of vintage Kustom gear. A couple of the 3-15 collums for example, you name it, being there is like a dream. Sunn tops piled up. Well, you get the picture. Anyway. He can have the cabinet, and that gives me a good feeling, it's in good hands.

I tried the top on my Peavey 215 cab, who looks pretty small next to the Kustom 415, and it sounds splendid. So i'm happy. I was looking for this top (a bit ashamed, but almost on a daily basis) eversince i bought my Kustom III bass in 2003. It's so extreme loud and warm. Wow.

[Updated on: Mon, 07 March 2011 14:22]

Report message to a moderator

Re: Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV [message #15377 is a reply to message #15375] Mon, 07 March 2011 14:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pleat is currently offline  pleat
Messages: 1454
Registered: June 2004
Location: Belding, Mi
Senior Member
Chicagobill, you are correct, I should have said parallel wiring instead of series wiring. The cabinet is wired in series, so that brings up the question of impedance of the cabinet.
I have to agree that the XLR jacks are not factory intalled. Different size and color of wires and the holes show burr's that indicate they were added at a later time.
pleat
Re: Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV [message #15379 is a reply to message #15356] Tue, 08 March 2011 08:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cassent5150 is currently offline  cassent5150
Messages: 341
Registered: August 2009
Senior Member
I've had both of my K-IV Bass and Lead heads opened and there is not two 5065 boards in them. There is a single massive board. This is the later 400 watt version with the voicing control. I found this out the hard way while playing Bass one day. I had just paid a couple bills getting this cab rated at 300 watt reconed and it played four songs and quit. Smoke rolling out of the ports told me the whole story. I went to the web site to find there were two versions of that amp and the first ones were 270 watt and the later versions with voicing control were 300 or 400 watts. These later IV's are very serious amps and wont have mercy on under rated speakers. Steve C

Steve C
Re: Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV [message #15381 is a reply to message #15379] Tue, 08 March 2011 10:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
KUSTOMBASS is currently offline  KUSTOMBASS
Messages: 15
Registered: July 2007
Location: NL
Junior Member
cassent5150 wrote on Tue, 08 March 2011 08:23
I've had both of my K-IV Bass and Lead heads opened and there is not two 5065 boards in them. There is a single massive board. This is the later 400 watt version with the voicing control. I found this out the hard way while playing Bass one day. I had just paid a couple bills getting this cab rated at 300 watt reconed and it played four songs and quit. Smoke rolling out of the ports told me the whole story. I went to the web site to find there were two versions of that amp and the first ones were 270 watt and the later versions with voicing control were 300 or 400 watts. These later IV's are very serious amps and wont have mercy on under rated speakers. Steve C


Ehrm, sorry, i thought you said 400 Watt... Shocked
Hm. This means i have a litte problem because my Peavey 215 cab is rated something like 200 watt. O.k. Is there a way to rate the wattage of speakers? Maybe i can place two of the speakers from the Kustom 415 in the Peavey 215.
Thanks for the info! You saved me a lot of money!

[Updated on: Tue, 08 March 2011 10:02]

Report message to a moderator

Re: Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV [message #15382 is a reply to message #15381] Tue, 08 March 2011 11:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cassent5150 is currently offline  cassent5150
Messages: 341
Registered: August 2009
Senior Member
If those 15's are the black widow in your Peavy Cab theres no worry about blowing them, it should be good for at least 4 or 5 hundred watts. Most standard 15's are good for 100 to 150 watts with a 2 1/2 to 4" copper voice coil unless its got an aluminum voice coil I would say the lower of the two. I don't know what IV model you have and what kind of speakers your using so I couldn't say if your safe or not. Its just some issues to consider that I learnd the hard (expensive)way when dealing with the IV model with voicing control. They are truly a beast, I've run four 4X12 cabs with mine at one time. These babys are the bomb for outdoor gigs, but a little, wait! no! way over kill for indoors unless its like the TEXAS STATIUM !! "Just say'n" Steve C

PS: I have run it with two 8 ohm K215B cabs indoors with some success, but even at low volumes when my bass guitarist was really getting into those strings the headroom it has would step on everyone elses toes.


Steve C
Re: Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV [message #15386 is a reply to message #15382] Tue, 08 March 2011 15:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
KUSTOMBASS is currently offline  KUSTOMBASS
Messages: 15
Registered: July 2007
Location: NL
Junior Member
cassent5150 wrote on Tue, 08 March 2011 11:31
If those 15's are the black widow in your Peavy Cab theres no worry about blowing them, it should be good for at least 4 or 5 hundred watts. Most standard 15's are good for 100 to 150 watts with a 2 1/2 to 4" copper voice coil unless its got an aluminum voice coil I would say the lower of the two. I don't know what IV model you have and what kind of speakers your using so I couldn't say if your safe or not. Its just some issues to consider that I learnd the hard (expensive)way when dealing with the IV model with voicing control. They are truly a beast, I've run four 4X12 cabs with mine at one time. These babys are the bomb for outdoor gigs, but a little, wait! no! way over kill for indoors unless its like the TEXAS STATIUM !! "Just say'n" Steve C

PS: I have run it with two 8 ohm K215B cabs indoors with some success, but even at low volumes when my bass guitarist was really getting into those strings the headroom it has would step on everyone elses toes.


Haha, thanks for the info. The Peavey 215 is loaded with BW's, but i'm going to check them just to be sure. Blowing out a speaker is no fun at a gig, i know by experience.
We play at the most unusual places, from very big venues to verry small venues all without PA-systems, so a decent backline is very nessecary. It's good to know that wherever we're going to play, i will always have my sound ánd enough power to blow everything to pieces (if needed). I don't think i will ever cranck the IV 'til the extremes, but júst louder than the Kustom III, that's good.
The last years i used a Peavey Musician MK III (1980) and a Peavey MKIII bass (1980), very good, loud and decent stuff. But not as warm as the Kustom. So, as i told. I'm a happy man.

[Updated on: Tue, 08 March 2011 15:20]

Report message to a moderator

Re: Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV [message #15387 is a reply to message #15386] Tue, 08 March 2011 15:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cassent5150 is currently offline  cassent5150
Messages: 341
Registered: August 2009
Senior Member
Your absolutly right "A whole lot warmer". Its good to have the headroom like that when you need it, thats my thinking. Its a bad thing to grab a good lead and just tear it up right and later hear "Man that was awesome but we couldn't hardly hear you out here. Like I said I have both voicing control models, the bass and the lead and both are awesome beasts. I used two 412 cabs on my lead head one time for an outdoors gig and my ears had a ring for a couple days afterwards,"now you dont get that kind of thing from just any amp". Your 2 black widows will be at minimum 300 watt rms each, thats 600 for the pair and thats good for 1000 watt peaks easy. At 300 or 400 watts rms you'll never come close to hurting those Black Widows. Your safe there. Steve C

PS: That low B on a five string bass will massage your feet right there on stage with that thing!!!!


Steve C
Re: Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV [message #15397 is a reply to message #15387] Thu, 10 March 2011 09:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
KUSTOMBASS is currently offline  KUSTOMBASS
Messages: 15
Registered: July 2007
Location: NL
Junior Member
cassent5150 wrote on Tue, 08 March 2011 15:50
Your absolutly right "A whole lot warmer". Its good to have the headroom like that when you need it, thats my thinking. Its a bad thing to grab a good lead and just tear it up right and later hear "Man that was awesome but we couldn't hardly hear you out here. Like I said I have both voicing control models, the bass and the lead and both are awesome beasts. I used two 412 cabs on my lead head one time for an outdoors gig and my ears had a ring for a couple days afterwards,"now you dont get that kind of thing from just any amp". Your 2 black widows will be at minimum 300 watt rms each, thats 600 for the pair and thats good for 1000 watt peaks easy. At 300 or 400 watts rms you'll never come close to hurting those Black Widows. Your safe there. Steve C

PS: That low B on a five string bass will massage your feet right there on stage with that thing!!!!


This friday i will use 'm for the first time! I'll keep you informed!
Re: Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV [message #15472 is a reply to message #15397] Wed, 30 March 2011 15:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
KUSTOMBASS is currently offline  KUSTOMBASS
Messages: 15
Registered: July 2007
Location: NL
Junior Member
Right, i used my "new" amp last week, not with my Peavey 215 but with the Hartke 8x10 that was at the venue. And i must say, i was convinced. Maybe a bit scared to really crank the volume up, because i didn't played my own cab. But yeah. It sounds good.
But now it feels a bit that i've lost my goal in life... Smile
Re: Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV [message #15474 is a reply to message #15472] Wed, 30 March 2011 16:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cassent5150 is currently offline  cassent5150
Messages: 341
Registered: August 2009
Senior Member
Great to hear, I used both of my K-4's two saturdays ago for an out door wedding reception. Each one lined into from the mixer and powered four 15's each. They will get the job done.

Steve C
icon10.gif  Re: Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV [message #15476 is a reply to message #3234] Wed, 30 March 2011 17:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kustom_Bart is currently offline  Kustom_Bart
Messages: 601
Registered: October 2010
Location: Greenville, MichiGUN
Senior Member
I can't wait to hear back from you after your Gig Jan, i think you may be able to blow the roof of from about anywhere with that thing...
Re: Impedance 'Tolex' Kustom III & IV [message #15577 is a reply to message #3234] Thu, 28 April 2011 09:39 Go to previous message
KUSTOMBASS is currently offline  KUSTOMBASS
Messages: 15
Registered: July 2007
Location: NL
Junior Member
Hm. When i first used my Kustom IV top at home, the volume was massive (Volume 2, Master 6), turning the volume above 2 gave an intense increase of sound. But now i can easily turn the volume above 5 without getting the "i'm gonna blow everything to pieces" sound. I think something is wrong, mabe one of the amps is broken (the top contains 2 Kustom III amps)?

I always use the "B" channel. The "A" channel is very soft, i can easily turn the volume up to 7 at home. So is think maybe that part of the amp needs to be fixed.
The speakers in the Peavey 215 are o.k. by the way.

Anybody?

And again, excuses for my somewhat crappy english.

Thanks!

[Updated on: Thu, 28 April 2011 09:40]

Report message to a moderator

  Switch to threaded view of this topic Create a new topic Submit Reply
Previous Topic: Krossroad AR200
Next Topic: Hello, new here.
Goto Forum:
  

-=] Back to Top [=-
[ Syndicate this forum (XML) ] [ RSS ]

Current Time: Mon Nov 18 08:55:23 EST 2024