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Kasino U-100 P question [message #10374] Thu, 29 January 2009 18:18 Go to next message
Optyk is currently offline  Optyk
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I asked his question in a thread I started about repairing this amp head, but we got so involved troubleshooting the problem, it sort of slipped through the cracks. So I'm going to repeat it here.

I thought I had read in other messages on here that the Kasino Club was a cheaper version of the K100 series. In the K100 series, the 4 channel PA head is rated at 50 watts.

In this, the supposedly lesser expensive line, this amp, according to the brochures in the Literature section show the U-100P to be a 100 watt amp.

Is this correct?

Rod


There's only two kinds of music. . . . blues and zippity doo dah.
Re: Kasino U-100 P question [message #10375 is a reply to message #10374] Fri, 30 January 2009 06:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, less expensive due to that amp line being just tolex covered with no fancy port tubes to tune the speaker cabinets.
wattage wise I do not have to look at any literature about that amp line, as if it has 4 output transistors its a 100 watt rms head just like a k200A or B model and have two big filter cans rated at 4500 mfd, and can run down to a 4 ohm load.
If it has only two output transistorsits a K100 model with 60 watts rms of output rated for a 8 ohm load.
Re: Kasino U-100 P question [message #10377 is a reply to message #10375] Fri, 30 January 2009 08:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's what I was thinking, steve. There are only two output transistors, so this is basically a K100 in a non-tuck&roll cabinet. I cranked it up last night and it's nowhere near as loud as my K200B-5, running through a cabinet I'm familiar with using the K200 head.

But, I now have a fully functional head that I only have $25 invested in. I'll find a use for it.

My next adventure is creating an 8 ohm cabinet to run that head through. Everything I have is 5.3 ohm or 4 ohm. I played keyboard back in the 60's, but switched to guitar because my Vox Continental stayed in the shop more than it stayed at home with me. I've been thinking of putting together a keyboard rig. I remember my Vox Continental, running through a Vox Kensington 50 watt bass amp had enough power to keep up with a bank of Vox Super Beatles that the guitarists and bass player were running through. I always figured it was because of the preamp in the Continental supplying a hot signal going into the Kensington. Maybe I'll get the same result running a keyboard into this Kasino head. I can always mic the signal from the keyboard amp and run it into the PA if I needed more punch. I just remembered that there's two low power outputs on the back of that Kasino head, too, so I could feed a signal from one of those into the PA, so I have several options there.

Regardless, thanks to your help and ChicagoBill's help, I've got my new toy functioning well.

Thanks again, guys.

Rod




There's only two kinds of music. . . . blues and zippity doo dah.
Re: Kasino U-100 P question [message #10380 is a reply to message #10374] Fri, 30 January 2009 12:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Unless you have the drivers sitting around I would but something like the Carvin model LSx1503, for 330 bucks you get a 3 way cabinet 15" 6" and a horn in a 8 ohm flavor.
My friend uses one playing his Rohodes keyboard thru a 40 watt Fender bandmaster head and its loud as all hell!!
I think I would go direct into the board thru a DI box depending on how long of a cable you need to run to get to mixer, that high impeadance out on the amp thru a long cable can pick up alot of noise!
Re: Kasino U-100 P question [message #10381 is a reply to message #10374] Fri, 30 January 2009 12:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sorry, that should have said , buy something!
Re: Kasino U-100 P question [message #10382 is a reply to message #10380] Fri, 30 January 2009 17:21 Go to previous message
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Well, as luck would have it, I do have a decent collection of drivers laying around that I could use. I also have a late 60's Fender Bassman speaker cabinet (the larger sized one) that originally had two 12's in it. One of the 12's, which weren't original Jensens when I bought it, went bad and I wound up enlarging the hole in the baffle and put a 15" Peavey Black Widow in its place. It works well, but it's definitely better for bass, as it sits, than guitar.

I've got some 10's that I'm thinking about putting in there with the 15" and 12" to bump up the trebles a bit, but I'll have to completely rebuild the baffle, which isn't that big of a deal, just a bit of work I can make the impedence work out so I wind up with an 8 ohm load which would work well with the Kasino head. Running a keyboard into that should be loud enough for smaller venues. Like I said, I can always mic it into the mixer for more volume if needed.

I'll figure it out. That Kasino is not a bad little amp. The sound is good and with the hum gone it's extremely quiet. The reverb on it isn't nearly as sweet sounding as my K200B-5 is, though. But for $25 for a 60 watt amp, it's livable.

Rod


There's only two kinds of music. . . . blues and zippity doo dah.
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