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Kustom VI mixing board [message #23386]

Sun, 12 July 2015 15:04

Iowa Boy
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Found a listing for a VI mixing board. Can this be used with the K-150 or K-300 PA heads? What's it worth.....price is open. Don't know anything about it but it does look pretty cool. Thanks.

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Re: Kustom VI mixing board [message #23390 is a reply to message #23386]

Sun, 12 July 2015 17:30

pleat
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There were a few versions of VI mixing board. Would need a better description, rack mount? Briefcase model, or the large wooden sided that contained a Bi-Amp power amp.
You could adapt the non powered version to work with a K250 or K300, by installing a power amp input jack and feed the signal from the mixer to the power amp.

Price? I have no idea without seeing what your talking about and if everything still works on the mixer.
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Re: Kustom VI mixing board [message #23394 is a reply to message #23390]

Sun, 12 July 2015 17:45

Iowa Boy
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Pleat its listed in Jackson Mi. on Craigslist. Looked like the one with wooden sides. Take a look and see what you think. Thanks.

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Re: Kustom VI mixing board [message #23395 is a reply to message #23394]

Sun, 12 July 2015 20:41

pleat
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It is the mixer/Bi-amp power system. The unit is basic 6 channel, 7 band EQ, built in reverb. Volume, bass, treble, reverb control each channel. Fixed 1KHz crossover. The unit has a 75 Watt Hi Freq. Horn amp and a 125 watt low Freq. bass cabinet amp. 64 pounds of old school. 1974 is the first year of production. It does have non balanced LoZ input for each channel. Master Monitor control, no individual monitor sends.
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Re: Kustom VI mixing board [message #23400 is a reply to message #23386]

Sun, 12 July 2015 20:56

Iowa Boy
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Okay...so is it workable with the 150 and 300, and if so, what is it worth? Guess since its powered, won't work with my heads......but as a stand alone with a couple of my cabinets.....possible.

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Re: Kustom VI mixing board [message #23401 is a reply to message #23400]

Sun, 12 July 2015 21:04

pleat
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It is a stand alone PA system. It has built in power amps. Anything is possible, but to bypass the internal amplifiers, install a mixer input (power amp input) in a K250 or K300 amp, to haul 64 more pounds of gear for the 6 extra mic channels. I'd pass.
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Re: Kustom VI mixing board [message #23402 is a reply to message #23386]

Sun, 12 July 2015 21:08

Iowa Boy
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I'm thinking about doing a PA system to rent on a smaller scale, or DJ setup. What do you think this is worth? $50 ?

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Re: Kustom VI mixing board [message #23405 is a reply to message #23402]

Sun, 12 July 2015 21:24

pleat
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If either of the power amps don't work you could easily spend 50 to 100.00 to get it running.
Kustom in 1974 re vamped their larger PA's. They went to a power amp that housed an electronic crossover, 500HZ, 800HZ and 1000HZ cross over point. Any tone below the crossover point you set, (I used the crossover point the horn driver suggested) The lower tones would be sent to a larger power amp that would be wired to low or woofer cabinet. any tone higher than the crossover point selected, is routed to the smaller horn amplifier, and any tones higher than the crossover point was sent to the mid horns or tweeters.
Kustom was the first to promote Bi-Amping. The concept is if a power amp distorts and the amp is driving both woofer and horn, you hear distortion in both horn and woofer. Dividing the low tones from the high tone, before the power amps, if a bass note is distorting the low freq. amp the horn amp remains clear and the over all sound is much better.

The mixer your looking at has two amplifiers in the unit. It has a fixed crossover point of 1000HZ. So you will need 4 speaker cables, two for horn cabinets and two for the woofer cabinets.
Using this mixer/power amp for DJ'ing it would pretty light on power.
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Re: Kustom VI mixing board [message #23406 is a reply to message #23386]

Sun, 12 July 2015 22:53

Iowa Boy
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So then your saying that the K-150 and K-300 PA heads are better than this mixer and that I would have nothing to gain by buying it.....right?

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Re: Kustom VI mixing board [message #23407 is a reply to message #23406]

Sun, 12 July 2015 23:24

pleat
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If you have a use for it that's great.
The only thing I see in a perfect working order VI mixer, is the fact that you can plug a LoZ mic directly into the channel and you do have a 7 band EQ. Most people today aren't aware of how the Bi-Amp (two power amps work in that mixer) and usually the horn amp is fried. The horn amps wants 8 ohms or higher and the woofer amp wants 4 ohms.

My band uses all old school T&R on stage for guitars, bass and PA and use modern mixer equipment. We run a 32x4 mixer with outboard EQ, and crossover into a 2000 watt power amps for mains. The PA for the fronts, we use pair of 215+H Altec loaded PA Cabs and a pair of 3x15 CTS cabs for subs. That mixer is a part of Kustom history, but long after Bud had sold the company.
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Re: Kustom VI mixing board [message #23408 is a reply to message #23386]

Sun, 12 July 2015 23:38

Iowa Boy
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So is there any way that you could just bypass both of those amps and connect the K-150 head to run the horns and the K-300 to run the mains and still be able to use the equalizer on this thing? My horns already have crossovers and L-pads on each cabinet and are 8 ohms each. All my other cabinets are switchable from 8 to 5.33 ohms depending on speaker selection.

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Re: Kustom VI mixing board [message #23411 is a reply to message #23408]

Mon, 13 July 2015 07:38

pleat
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Just leave the power amps unhooked and use the line output to your K150 and K300 PA amps.
The power amps inside the VI Mixer are the same power amp as your K150 and the bass amp is the same as the K250.

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