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15" Incompatible? [message #7251] Sat, 05 August 2006 06:25 Go to next message
Gugo is currently offline  Gugo
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Hey guys.
I found a 15" Kustom speaker(I think its a PA speaker) and a Fi-Sonic Head at my local music shop, and when I play them together the speaker rattles. I've tested both the Head and the Speaker on other equipment, and they sound ok, but together it makes a crackling noise.

I am pretty new to sound equiptment, so would anyone know what the problem would be?

Any advice would be very appreciated! Thankyou.
Re: 15" Incompatible? [message #7267 is a reply to message #7251] Wed, 09 August 2006 07:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
stevem is currently offline  stevem
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What are you playing thru the set up, guitar or bass?If its a PA speaker its probibly got a horn that may be blown if its not the 15" its self that is on its way out.Maybe if you are sitting the head on top of the speaker the vibration from the speaker is making a bad connection in the head show up, it could be a bad input jack on the amp or a bad jack on the speaker.I really need more info it pin it down better.
Re: 15" Incompatible? [message #7354 is a reply to message #7267] Fri, 18 August 2006 08:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for the info, but I think it was the speaker that was on its way out. I was playing on it with pretty normal volume a couple of days ago and the speaker fuzzed out, whick makes me pretty sad. Thankfully my music shops ordering me a new 15" Celestion speaker, but I don't know how it'll be without the speaker, which had a beautiful sound.

It could be the input or output jacks the amp, I don't know. But thats for your help, you've given me some ideas that could really make a difference.

Re: 15" Incompatible? [message #7357 is a reply to message #7251] Fri, 18 August 2006 12:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi, if the bad speaker came out of a tuck n roll type kustom cabinet then its worth holding on to the vintage speaker that came out of it and get it re-coned.If its the original driver from the tuck n roll cab, and the original jack plate is still on the back of the cab, that will say on it who the original driver manufacturer was. Their was 5 different make 15 inch speakers that kustom used. 3 where standard drivers and 2 where optional top of the line speakers.The standard bass driver was a CTS brand, and can be IDed by the number 137 stamped on the magnet. one upscale brand could be altec, a model 421 with a ID number of 391 on the mounting lip. The other brand would be JBL, their model D140 driver, JBL uses no ID number. The standard guitar driver would be jensen. with a ID number of 220 then 3 other digets, and model C15L.Top of the line drivers would be the altec model 418b or the JBL D130. Some of the last of the 70s tuck n roll cabs may come with eminence made drivers with 038 number on the magnet. Any of these drivers are worth holding onto, even more so if its one of the top of the line drivers.
Re: 15" Incompatible? [message #7361 is a reply to message #7357] Sat, 19 August 2006 00:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Its actually a Pro-15, I don't really know if its from the Tuck and Roll series.
Here it is here:

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3518/pro15rg5.jpg

The PRO-15P.

Its in a bit better condition than this one, and at the moment I'm running it through what can be closely described as this, but as a head:

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/391/fisonic1966wx4.jpg

I don't know if this is the wrong combination. Please let me know, I'm just a newbie and may have ruined a brilliant speaker! Embarassed
Re: 15" Incompatible? [message #7364 is a reply to message #7251] Sat, 19 August 2006 20:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That model kustom is a late one and would have come with a eminence made driver.
Re: 15" Incompatible? [message #7366 is a reply to message #7364] Sun, 20 August 2006 02:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Alright, my local music store was offering me one of those. Thanks mate, you've been an incredible help.
Re: 15" Incompatible? [message #7368 is a reply to message #7251] Mon, 21 August 2006 07:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Eminence makes a whole S load of different types of drivers, if you liked that speakers tone so much when it was working I would get the info off of the white sticker on the magnet, and call up eminence and get their input on what replacement they have to get you back to that tone.
Re: 15" Incompatible? [message #7378 is a reply to message #7368] Thu, 24 August 2006 02:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thats what I was thinking.
I know Celestions have a nice sound (which was the other 15" they were offering me), but if I could get that Eminence tone back I would be very thankful.
Re: 15" Incompatible? [message #7424 is a reply to message #7251] Sun, 03 September 2006 05:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Anyway, (sorry for the double post) I was wondering If you knew what the retail price for the actual speaker and box is worth in its original state, and what it would be worth now. I want to see if my dealer ripped me off.
Re: 15" Incompatible? [message #7428 is a reply to message #7251] Tue, 05 September 2006 07:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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With a working driver, and that it is not a tuck & roll model, maybe 100 to 120 dollars.
Re: 15" Incompatible? [message #7444 is a reply to message #7428] Wed, 06 September 2006 07:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In American Dollars? This is in Australia
Re: 15" Incompatible? [message #7450 is a reply to message #7251] Thu, 07 September 2006 07:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yea , sorry I did not know you where down under. How did people ever confirm that north is up for gods sake? For all I know I could be down under!My band just relearned that MEN AT WORK tune 2 weeks ago and we where having that same talk and pondering session.
Re: 15" Incompatible? [message #7451 is a reply to message #7450] Thu, 07 September 2006 07:18 Go to previous message
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Haha, and the guy out of that band was from England too, so he fails Very Happy
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