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Re: tone problem on K25C-2 [message #23178 is a reply to message #23177] Tue, 23 June 2015 03:19 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
vintagefan is currently offline  vintagefan
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Thanks for the input Kustom_Bart

To answer what I play, and about effects into the Kustoms..,,,,.I'm not a tech, so I hope you'll overlook my terminology imperfections.

I only play clean Fender Esquire/Telecaster early 50's/60's hi eq sounds in my tv room at low enough volume to hear the tv. I have a couple Fender American Special Telecasters I outfitted with steel bridges, steel saddles, tusq nuts, wired direct from the 3 way switch to the output jack with no pots, and outfitted with Fender 50's Road Worn Tex Mex pickups measuring 6k and 7k. Using Dean Markley .08 steel strings to do a lot of bending steel guitar notes.

Respectfully, for my ear's tone preference, putting a processor or pedals in front of a Kustom defeats the purpose of why I like Kustoms. To me it loses the identifiable footprint Kustom sound. The 3 Vintage Kustom K100C-8 4x10's I have produce plenty of treble to still be heard when I turn them down low. This K25C-2 has no treble even when cranked up high. By the way, this K25C-2 may be only 12.5 watts, but it sure sounds like 25 watts cranked up.

I have a couple Line 6 digital amps and a Line 6 digital pod which I don't like. I've also owned a dozen effects pedals over the years, none of which I liked. To me pedals, digital amps and digital effects just sound too fake compared to the 50's/60's Fender amps that were cranked up loud to get their tone. Also, on the Kustoms I can turn the vibrato(tremelo) down so low you can almost not hear it, but it will give a good constant even sustain sound. When plugged into my Line 6 digital amp or when using my Line 6 digital pod into my Kustom, when the Line 6 tremelo is turned down as low as it will go, there is not a smooth even sustain sound, but rather a stop and go sound is heard. And the numerous Fender tube amps I've owned have to be cranked up too loud for my purposes to get good tone. The worst amp on the planet for bad tone that I ever owned was a Fender Cyber Twin digital amp. None of the above will matter for someone preferring distortion, pedals, and loud volume.

Here are some videos from the 60's thru the 80's of some good Fender Telecaster sounds at high volume which I'm after, but at low volume. The Kustoms are the closest I've found. You may have to copy and paste these video URL's into your address bar to play them. I can't get them to play by opening them within this website.

Eddie Joe Shaver had the exact sound I'm after
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj3PG3FSgfY&feature=yout u.be

Gimpy Mayo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvRNRiA_h34&feature=yout u.be

Roy Buchannon played so loud, you'll see his amp turned around backwards from the audience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swX9oq6TVAU&feature=yout u.be

Kid Ramos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUdwGD40yxo&feature=yout u.be

Roy Nichols
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2wZqShfpQE&feature=yout u.be

Danny Gatton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWi7-qa8sU4&feature=yout u.be

Waylon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqCRwu2aDEs&feature=yout u.be

Don Rich using flatwounds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4hnlAfsS-o&feature=yout u.be

[Updated on: Tue, 23 June 2015 03:36]

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