New speakers [message #6394] |
Mon, 12 December 2005 08:54 |
Forge
Messages: 41 Registered: February 2005 Location: In car trunk in Danville ...
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I'm looking for a company that makes vintage style speakers.
I'm wanting to replace my old warn out 15" cts bass speakers
Their to the point that you can't turn the amp up, you cannot crank the bass up and there’s a discolored ring around the cone were it gives in the middle
I’ve looked at the main brands celestion, eminence, jensen
all there speakers seem to modern I’m wanting to keep the vintage sound I would like to find some altec or jbl's but there a little hard to find
I was looking at the Jensen P15N cause I'm looking for somthing with AlNiCo driver
keep that fat sound alive!
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Re: New speakers [message #6396 is a reply to message #6394] |
Mon, 12 December 2005 09:31 |
C4ster
Messages: 686 Registered: June 2001 Location: Mukwonago, WI (Milwaukee...
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How many speakers are you talking about? I want to replace the CTS bass speaker in my 1x15 cabinet. If you only need 1, I would be willing to sell that one. It is in perfect condition and it is 100% original. Another option is to have your speaker(s) reconed. A decent repair facility can recone vertully every speaker to original specs. If you don't have one local to you, contact Simply Speakers in Florida at www.simplyspeakers.com, They can recone everything. I buy parts from them to recone my JBL E140's. If that fails then check Ebay. For that vintage, a JBL D140F or a D130F speaker is an Alnico magnet speaker that was optional on every Kustom model. A D140 is a bass speaker that will go from 30Hz to 2500Hz and rattle the fillings in your teeth and a D130 is a midrange speaker that will go from 40Hz to 6000Hz. That is great for guitar. But expect to pay a premium for them. Also, you take a risk anytime you buy a speaker online. Even if they are operational from the seller, they may not know how yo pack it and it might get damaged in shipment. I paid $250 for 2 E140's that the shipper just threw in a box with shipping peanuts and ended up crushing the cones. If the speaker is faulty in any little way, rubs, rattles whistling etc. you will need to have it reconed. There is no repairing one once it has been completely assembled. Good luck.
Conrad
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Re: New speakers [message #6400 is a reply to message #6394] |
Mon, 12 December 2005 12:20 |
rodak
Messages: 516 Registered: October 2001 Location: Georgia
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Check out Ted Weber at http://www.webervst.comwww.webervst.com
He sells lots of different speakers, and seems to be very knowledgable about the various brands and models of vintage musical instrument speakers. I think he even produces his own line of speakers, designed to mimic various well-known models. I've had some dealings with him, and he seems like a nice fellow.
Also, check out his FAQ section. He's got some excellent information there about speaker technology, design, repair, etc. Makes for good reading, if you're into that sort of thing.
www.combo-organ.com
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Re: New speakers [message #6406 is a reply to message #6394] |
Tue, 13 December 2005 15:06 |
rodak
Messages: 516 Registered: October 2001 Location: Georgia
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If you've got a K200 amp, it's rated for max output (somethign like 100watts RMS) at a 4ohm load, so 2 8-ohms speakers would be the best - max output and all - and the amp should be quite happy with that.
If it's a K100, or some other amp rated for only 8ohms, then Ted should be able to fix you up with a couple of 16ohm speakers, which wired in parallel would be 8ohms.
If you do wind up getting Webers, post back here and let us know your impressions. Ted REALLY seems to know his speakers, but it'd be nice to hear a real-world review, especially for the Kustom world.
www.combo-organ.com
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Re: New speakers [message #6408 is a reply to message #6394] |
Tue, 13 December 2005 16:01 |
rodak
Messages: 516 Registered: October 2001 Location: Georgia
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No, I'm saying if you're using a K200 head, it will be ok. I can't find in any of your posts, though, which head you're driving the speakers with.
Whenever possible, it's usually best to run the lowest speaker impedance the amp is rated for.
www.combo-organ.com
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Re: New speakers [message #6413 is a reply to message #6394] |
Wed, 14 December 2005 08:47 |
stevem
Messages: 4772 Registered: June 2004 Location: NY
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If you go from 8 ohms to 4, or 16 ohms to 8 you get almost 2 times the wattage, but that does not translate into 2 times the acoustic wattage( loudness to your ears) but you will get twice the amount of clean volume before the amp starts to distort.Thats why efficent speakers or so important,(IE) if one CTS was rated at 92 DBs SPL and you got a new speaker that was rated at 95 DB you would get that same double amount of clean head room as cutting the impedence in half, PLUS twice the acoustic wattage.
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