unknown model [message #19173] |
Wed, 21 August 2013 17:00 |
freddyfender
Messages: 21 Registered: August 2013 Location: spartanburg Sc
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I recently picked this up for my next project.. I am unsure which model it really is.. It resembles a 1-15 sc. I would like to restore it to its original splendor.. I have been a Kustom fan for close to 40 yrs. This will be my first restoration of a kustom. Please see the attached link for photos. Thanks in advance for your help this is a great site..I look forward to your responses.
http://s851.photobucket.com/user/muddawber99/library/
"The gain from love is a gift.The will of love is to give. Music expresses the love from the soul"
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Re: unknown model [message #19176 is a reply to message #19175] |
Wed, 21 August 2013 22:48 |
freddyfender
Messages: 21 Registered: August 2013 Location: spartanburg Sc
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Thanks for the reply Oren.. I did look thru the literature.. Either the 1-15 sc or the 1-15ab sc. Got it working very well, it sounds great. Have alittle restoration work to get back to original condition. Do you know of an outlet for the naugahyde in kustom kolors. I have restored a few vintage amps for myself and friends. I am definately a purist at all effforts. Patience here is worth the wait.sounds like your last project came out good. This amp is for my 14y/o to learn to play bass thru when it is complete.Thanks for your comments
"The gain from love is a gift.The will of love is to give. Music expresses the love from the soul"
[Updated on: Wed, 21 August 2013 22:58] Report message to a moderator
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Re: unknown model [message #19177 is a reply to message #19173] |
Thu, 22 August 2013 06:59 |
stevem
Messages: 4772 Registered: June 2004 Location: NY
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Welcome to the place!
Kustom colored Naugahyde can be had from doing a search for Garys upholstery.
One thing to note though if you find your son wants to change colors is that the blue and cascade is different than the orignal in that it is on a black back ground and not silver, this makes for alot less zig under lighting, but still way better than torn covering.
other colors like red, cascade,and gold will increase the value of the amp.
Note that white, which Kustom called silver can be hard to find, your amp color is called Charcoal.
Recovering the whole amp and the work involed to make the rolls/pleats can cost alot if you can not get the nack of doing it your self, or have a wife or Grandmom who can do it out of love!!
Do a search here for other postings that cover the work.
Keep us updated on your progress and or problems.
[Updated on: Thu, 22 August 2013 07:00] Report message to a moderator
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Re: unknown model [message #19219 is a reply to message #19217] |
Sun, 25 August 2013 09:25 |
freddyfender
Messages: 21 Registered: August 2013 Location: spartanburg Sc
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Thanks for the response Pleat I always look forward to all the senior member's comments.. I will post another set of pics so that the construction is better represented.. One part of the shelf that the amp rests on is loose and the connection for the base shelf of the speaker cab section is racked causing the amp shelf be skewed. I am going to remove the t&r,amp,speaker and back board and diagnose the complete case to determine the appropiate course to correct the errors.More than likely it will require new case.I am a "custom" cabinet designer/builder.I would appreciate any information from the the members of this site with the correct dimentions of the case.Thanks for all the help from everyone.I will post updates as available.
"The gain from love is a gift.The will of love is to give. Music expresses the love from the soul"
[Updated on: Sun, 25 August 2013 09:26] Report message to a moderator
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Re: unknown model [message #19339 is a reply to message #19326] |
Thu, 05 September 2013 21:11 |
freddyfender
Messages: 21 Registered: August 2013 Location: spartanburg Sc
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http://s851.photobucket.com/user/muddawber99/library/
Bart please check out the additional pics. You can see that the cab is in 2 pieces being a top and a bottom. Look closely at the interior shots and you will notice there is a large gap at the upper corner both left and right where you can see the foam. Also the wood in the upper portion of the cabinet appears to be completely different in every aspect. Being a custom cabinet maker with my own shop,replicating a cabinet to original specs is not difficult. I have found through experience that new replacement is alot of times better and quicker than repair.Thanks for all you do Bart.
Pleat thanks for your comments and help to track this down. The power amp board number is kei-1 pc-703. Hope that helps. Also I included some new pics of the board.The speaker baffle board has the 1/4"spacers at the back side of the baffle board and the front of the board has what appears to be 3/4" spacer around perimeter of the port tube hole. The depth of the cabinet at the bottom is exactly 12 7/8". You are correct there is no taper at the control area. Do you have a pic of the bass cabinet that shows the perspective of the taper. Thanks for all your help
"The gain from love is a gift.The will of love is to give. Music expresses the love from the soul"
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Re: unknown model [message #19342 is a reply to message #19173] |
Thu, 05 September 2013 23:32 |
chicagobill
Messages: 2006 Registered: April 2003
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If you are ordering from Gary's Upholstery, look up channel foam on the website. It's very expensive, but it might be the right stuff for your project.
Edit: A little searching and there are much cheaper sources for channel foam out there.
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Re: unknown model [message #19343 is a reply to message #19173] |
Fri, 06 September 2013 00:50 |
Kustom_Bart
Messages: 601 Registered: October 2010 Location: Greenville, MichiGUN
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So, with it being 14" depth overall, what you have is a guitar combo K100 or 150-8 that someone made a new cabinet and baffle board for it and installed a single 15 where it should have two 12's or even two 10's. They failed to make the sides of the cabinet correctly though and that is why the the T&R is messed up and inconsistent at the top. You can build the proper cabinet and take that covering right off and install it right over the new correct cabinet and the T&R will lay correctly. Make a new baffle board and back and it is done.
Look at the original literature and look at some pics of amps like it and you will get it done.
You couldn't pay me enough money to try to make that tuck and roll, it isn't just tucked and rolled, it is sewn to the foam at every seam in the tuck and roll and has to be perfect with the correct foam or it doesn't work or look correctly and you can ask the guys here that know me, I can build or fix anything, if I really want to do it. If you grow up with nothing, you figure out on how to make something from nothing, TRUTH!
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Re: unknown model [message #19361 is a reply to message #19358] |
Sat, 07 September 2013 07:50 |
pleat
Messages: 1454 Registered: June 2004 Location: Belding, Mi
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This has been an interesting discussion. Going back re-reading the posts. The owner stated that at the bottom of the amp he measured 12 7/8". That may be including the foam. In any event, Kustom literature states for dimensions of a 115 bass model cab is 30" wide x 30" tall x 14" deep.
The 2x12 models: the literature states dimensions of 30" wide x 26" tall x 12" Deep. I think the height dimensions are including the casters.
Counting the T&R to get the height, the 115 bass model is 13 T&R which at 2" each pleat, you get 26" tall.
Counting the T&R to get the height of the 2x12 model, is 11 T&R or 22" tall.
Looking over the added photos the owner gave a link on 9-5.
The cab in question has 13 T&R which makes the covering at least, started out as a bass amp.
I believe the baffle board is original and someone covered the port tube holes and re-grilled it at some point. I see the board has holes near the ends and appears to have indentations of the flat washer Kustom used to bolt the baffle to the cabinet.
On the JBL speaker? I would say it is a D130F since it has the smooth paper cone. The D140 bass speakers have a corragated rougher cone. I didn't see any Kustom ink stamp on the frame, and with the JBL tag missing from the magnet, it may have had a K stamped into the tag. I don't know what impedance the speaker is? It would be good to know.
I think were some of the confusion might be, the owner asked for a dimension to start the taper on the side of the cab to match the face plate. Counting the T&R from the bottom up, I said 20" or 10 T&R. Not that the bass cab is 20" deep.
The amp is a true K200, no mis-print or error on the face plate. From the pictures that are posted, the power amp has 4 output transistors, the RCA out jack, no secondary transformer (or whatever it is called that are in the SC series amps) and the board number is PC703. With the amp power section being a K200 it can handle a 4 ohm total load, so not knowing the impedance of the speaker, the amp might not put out full wattage.
We also don't know what the completed project will be used for, Bass or Guitar.
pleat
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