Kustom Studio 4 valve amp or K100-C-8 2x10.....?? [message #14079] |
Sun, 18 July 2010 16:33 ![Go to next message Go to next message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/down.png) |
woody96
Messages: 107 Registered: May 2001
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Guys; gals.......I have found a Kustom studio 4 valve amp in excellent condition and of all things; also a black T&R K100 C-8 with 2x10 configuration. Both amps are in excellent condition both eletrically and appearance wise----just for those that maybe need a slight refresher..the studio is the oak cabinet Kustom that has 2 channels with reverb and phaser--2x12" celestions----looks like a vintage Mesa Boogie.....they are each offered for sale @ $250.......
What do you suggest? I wish I had the funds to get both---but alas, cannot.....Love to hear your recommendations......
I would also love to hear from anyone that either has owned one of the Kustom oak cabinet studio amps and what they think of it......
THANKS!!
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Re: Kustom Studio 4 valve amp or K100-C-8 2x10.....?? [message #14083 is a reply to message #14082] |
Mon, 19 July 2010 11:37 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/down.png) |
pleat
Messages: 1454 Registered: June 2004 Location: Belding, Mi
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Well, I've never played through a studio model so I can only speak of the K100's. At home either amp is fine. Depending on what kind of music you play, any effect pedals or processor pedals you may be using, the K100 will accept any processor pedal better than any amp I've ever used. If you plan on using the amp on stage, I don't really agree that a 2x10 won't cut it on a live gig. Again it depends on what you want the amp to do and what effects you may have in front of the amp. I've used a K50 single 12 for my main amp for 12 years doing small clubs to outdoor events. I do use a processor pedal and I've never been told to turn up. Last year at our kustom convention we ran all old school, HiZ mics into a K400 PA head, ran all the amps without mic's and I stood next to a K100 2x10 that was leading the stage in volume. We had 4 to 5 guitar players on stage at one time all night long.
The studio amps being tube driven, tubes will effect the quality of tone, and I guess for me, I'd prefer not to worry about the cost of upkeep with a tube amp. Not having ever played a Studio amp, I don't know how they would accept a processor pedal. I personally think that the T&R amps will always be worth more in resale than the Studio series. T&R are time proven and with the studio series most times the one's I seen for sale are missing the footswitch for channel switching and effects.
pleat
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Re: Kustom Studio 4 valve amp or K100-C-8 2x10.....?? [message #14084 is a reply to message #14079] |
Mon, 19 July 2010 18:10 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/down.png) |
woody96
Messages: 107 Registered: May 2001
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Thanks........the Studio has a SS preamp section and 4 6L6 power tubes....reverb and flanger on board.....solid oak cabinet; celestion speakers; VG condition........the K100 is in VG condition as well in black T&R......
I love the look of the studio----very much like an early Mesa Boogie with the cabinet and wheat grill cloth.......
The K100 is excellent too.....
I think the K100 will hold or increase in value of course.....not sure about the studio.......
Any other thoughts??
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Re: Kustom Studio 4 valve amp or K100-C-8 2x10.....?? [message #14108 is a reply to message #14079] |
Sat, 24 July 2010 23:10 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/down.png) |
woody96
Messages: 107 Registered: May 2001
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Thanks all; now the amp seems to have some issues....pots are very scratchy (easy fix I think); power light stays on for a bit after turing off...(interesting phenomenom!); and worst of all---the master volume pot has been replaced with the wrong size pot shaft as I found out the knob came right off as it needs a larger pot shaft to fit tight---the knob was glued on! (I think this is an easy fix too---at least the OEM knob is there!)......
What do you all think about these issues??
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Re: Kustom Studio 4 valve amp or K100-C-8 2x10.....?? [message #14111 is a reply to message #14079] |
Mon, 26 July 2010 05:51 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/down.png) |
stevem
Messages: 4768 Registered: June 2004 Location: NY
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I do not really concider any of them issue`s, I mean its a used amp right!
Pot cleaning is a normal maintiance factor for any gear and the power indicator lamp staying on after turn off is normal on many amps and just means that the power supply is hold on to its DC volatge for a long period, which is a good sign in regards to power filter condition.
Finding the right replacement, size shaft master volume pot should not take much searching so all in all this is normal stuff.
Be glad is does not need semiconductors to be repaced, as some of them are going the suplus supply route!
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Re: Kustom Studio 4 valve amp or K100-C-8 2x10.....?? [message #14144 is a reply to message #14143] |
Thu, 29 July 2010 10:21 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/down.png) |
woody96
Messages: 107 Registered: May 2001
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Well, I am heartbroken about the amp for sure.......called Daddy's and they are supposed to refund my $$.....they admitted to not having enough cardboard in the packout.....and UPS did a real number on it.....
I can fix the cabinet...not sure about the amp....but got the schematics for it.......
What do ya'll think? Worth fixing? Take it to a tech and get the amp fixed and try and fix the cabinet?
It is so rare I hate to see it go to the dump--I am sure that is what Daddy's will do with it---probably scavange the speakers out of it and sell them.......
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Re: Kustom Studio 4 valve amp or K100-C-8 2x10.....?? [message #14147 is a reply to message #14144] |
Thu, 29 July 2010 14:47 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/down.png) |
C4ster
Messages: 686 Registered: June 2001 Location: Mukwonago, WI (Milwaukee...
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Send them pictures and ask for a price reduction. No harm in trying. On this site we typically talk more vintage stuff. Tuck and roll from the 60's and early 70's. But that doesn't mean you are not welcome. Absolutely. You have seen that already. It's like a car. If the engine or transmission is blown, it can be fixed. But if the body is shot, then the boneyard is probably in order unless it's a 65 Mustang. If you think that you can repair the cabinet or have someone do it for you, then the amp should be easy. Just realize that not powering up it THE most BASIC problem you could have. Maybe a defective fuse from a blow to the cabinet or a dislodged connector. After that, guys on this site can steer you in the right direction. I have bought amps knowing that the amp doesn't work, just needs a good cabinet. Welcome and good luck!
Conrad
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Re: Kustom Studio 4 valve amp or K100-C-8 2x10.....?? [message #14148 is a reply to message #14147] |
Thu, 29 July 2010 15:33 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/down.png) |
woody96
Messages: 107 Registered: May 2001
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C4ster wrote on Thu, 29 July 2010 14:47Send them pictures and ask for a price reduction. No harm in trying. On this site we typically talk more vintage stuff. Tuck and roll from the 60's and early 70's. But that doesn't mean you are not welcome. Absolutely. You have seen that already. It's like a car. If the engine or transmission is blown, it can be fixed. But if the body is shot, then the boneyard is probably in order unless it's a 65 Mustang. If you think that you can repair the cabinet or have someone do it for you, then the amp should be easy. Just realize that not powering up it THE most BASIC problem you could have. Maybe a defective fuse from a blow to the cabinet or a dislodged connector. After that, guys on this site can steer you in the right direction. I have bought amps knowing that the amp doesn't work, just needs a good cabinet. Welcome and good luck!
Conrad
Thanks Conrad.....I am a former forum member and have had multiple K100's and K100 combos......wanted to try here as this is a vintage Kustom tube and wanted some opinions.....
They have offered a full refund and UPS will pick up just as it is...who knows what happens to it after that...I sure hate to see it go to the boneyard when I know the cabinet is fixable and just don't know what is up with the amp.......
Worth the risk of getting a cut on the price and tempting fate getting it repaired??
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Re: Kustom Studio 4 valve amp or K100-C-8 2x10.....?? [message #14158 is a reply to message #14157] |
Thu, 29 July 2010 22:03 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/down.png) |
woody96
Messages: 107 Registered: May 2001
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Well, he just e-mailed me and basically stated that he was happy to refund the money I spent but would have a very hard time letting me just have the amp too...that he needed to see if he could get back their $$ into it via the UPS claim........UGH!
What ya think; I paid $235 shipped....he refunded that-----offer to pay $100 and and call it quits...I could ge that for the speakers if I could not get the amp part repaired.....
I sure wish I was an amp repair guy and knew more about how bad this repair might be......it is not PTP for sure---has some boards inside and if one of those is in bad shape or broken underneath....might be non-repairable??? Again; it powers on; tubes light up.....take it out of standby to on and sounds like it is powered on...but; no sound and no power light......the master volume pot turning (scratchiness) can be heard in the speakers, but that's it.....I hooked the speakers to another amp and they amazingly just fine.
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Re: Kustom Studio 4 valve amp or K100-C-8 2x10.....?? [message #14162 is a reply to message #14079] |
Fri, 30 July 2010 09:09 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/up.png) |
woody96
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THX for your thoughts Don.......much appreciated .....they did have a 2x10 T&R K100; but it has been sold, that was the one I was trying to decide upon........
I have the schematic for the Studio from the forum member overseas...he was nice enough to send it.....the amp has several PCB boards and connectors as you described...a large accutronic reverb tank, and 6L6 power tubes and a SS preamp section......
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