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What is it worth? [message #18425] Thu, 14 March 2013 23:01 Go to next message
Jamesonthedrums is currently offline  Jamesonthedrums
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I've got a black Kustom K200B-2 with a 2x15 cab and was wondering what it's worth. It's in spectacular shape and is only missing one knob. Everything works it just needs to have the pots cleaned. I'm new to this so I'm having difficulties with pictures. Also any typical information i.e. ohms and wattage would be a great help as well.

Thanks,
James
Re: What is it worth? [message #18426 is a reply to message #18425] Fri, 15 March 2013 00:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kustom_Bart is currently offline  Kustom_Bart
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It is all about color and condition. With pictures it would be much easier to help you. The cabinet stock was 8 ohms and the head would drive 2 cabs (4ohm total load) @ 100 watts max. The only way you will find a knob is used, they do not make them that are exact. Does it have the covers for the head and cabinet, does it have the original foot pedal? These are all things that add or take away from value. Being black, Kustom made 65% of there amps in black so they are very common and easy to find.

To post a picture it is best to get a photo bucket account and upload your pic's and then just copy and paste the link that has the ([img ) without the quotes([/img ) before and after it.

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Re: What is it worth? [message #18427 is a reply to message #18426] Fri, 15 March 2013 01:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb85/fearb4themarchofjames/f0a8e8e3b269a032c09de82de92bc0e2.jpg

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb85/fearb4themarchofjames/3a7a619dcbbf4257b6600eb367489658.jpg

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb85/fearb4themarchofjames/0745d6e7bafa44a49835784105695b42.jpg

Thanks for the info! these are the only pics I have right now but can I can get more. I'm just looking for info because its so hard to find for these amps and I know very little about it. I'm curious to know what its worth because I need to know if I got a good deal on it and in case I decide to try and sell it myself. I've seen just the heads on eBay for around $250 but I've yet to see the whole rig.

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Re: What is it worth? [message #18428 is a reply to message #18427] Fri, 15 March 2013 01:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kustom_Bart is currently offline  Kustom_Bart
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I can tell from the serial number that is was built in Oct/Nov. of 1968. DO you know what speakers it has in the cabinet?
Re: What is it worth? [message #18429 is a reply to message #18428] Fri, 15 March 2013 01:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamesonthedrums is currently offline  Jamesonthedrums
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I have taken the back off the cab but it has been awhile. I know the top is the blue-ish J.B. Lansing and I'm not sure about the bottom... I'm 99.9% that it's all original

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Re: What is it worth? [message #18430 is a reply to message #18429] Fri, 15 March 2013 03:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Take a pic of the speakers and get the numbers off from them and we can give you the info from them as well.
Re: What is it worth? [message #18431 is a reply to message #18430] Fri, 15 March 2013 06:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That top speaker is a siren horn ! Not a JBL !
Re: What is it worth? [message #18432 is a reply to message #18425] Fri, 15 March 2013 08:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That bottom should be a Jensen.
Re: What is it worth? [message #18434 is a reply to message #18432] Fri, 15 March 2013 10:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Maybe 400.00 on a good day.
Re: What is it worth? [message #18435 is a reply to message #18425] Fri, 15 March 2013 11:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yeah that sounds about right, in Ebay who knows.
Re: What is it worth? [message #18436 is a reply to message #18435] Fri, 15 March 2013 11:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When I can't get a bid on the same silver amp at 900, that is worth 400 on a good day, don't you think?
Re: What is it worth? [message #18437 is a reply to message #18426] Fri, 15 March 2013 11:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kustom_Bart wrote on Fri, 15 March 2013 00:38
...The only way you will find a knob is used, they do not make them that are exact...


Really? I thought these were standard "Cosmo" knobs, used on Rickenbacker guitars and Moog synths. Very much still available today, and as far as I can tell, are an exact match to the old ones. The synth guys use 'em all the time.

Cosmo only sells in large quantities, but they're available on eBay and elsewhere, like here:

http://synthesizers.com/cabinets.html#knobs

Or is there some subtle difference between the orignal ones and these new ones?





www.combo-organ.com

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Re: What is it worth? [message #18438 is a reply to message #18425] Fri, 15 March 2013 12:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I use the Cosmos knobs all the time. The only real difference is that during certain periods, Kustom used a push on D shaft knob, while the Cosmos only comes with a set screw.

Small Bear Electronics still has them.
Re: What is it worth? [message #18439 is a reply to message #18437] Fri, 15 March 2013 12:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Did some searching on the knobs, and found this excellent thread from TWELVE YEARS AGO!

http://www.vintagekustom.com/FUDforum2/index.php?t=msg&t h=4&rid=38&S=132f1abfb315c165d3a9ebd445afdbd4#msg_19

Lots of good discussion on the knobs,including a story on how Cosmo took over the knobs from the original company. Apparently the new ones, while not 100% exact, are so close as to be nearly indistinguishable, except in a close, side-by-side comparison.


www.combo-organ.com
Re: What is it worth? [message #18441 is a reply to message #18438] Fri, 15 March 2013 12:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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chicagobill wrote on Fri, 15 March 2013 12:06


Small Bear Electronics still has them.


Indeed, and what a great price!

http://www.smallbearelec.com/servlet/Detail?no=1194

For ten at 80cents each, shipping is only $5,total cost $1.30 per knob!


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Re: What is it worth? [message #18442 is a reply to message #18441] Fri, 15 March 2013 14:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I still don't think they are exact. Radio shack has some, but they aren't exact either. those look really close but, it would have to be for a smooth shaft and use a set screw to hold it on. The D shaped ones are only for the metal faced amps.

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Re: What is it worth? [message #18443 is a reply to message #18425] Fri, 15 March 2013 15:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On price I think that black rig should be in the $400-$500 range depending on if it has covers and has foot switch. That silver one is nice Bart, but $900 is a bit high for that configuration, but still a very nice rig!
Re: What is it worth? [message #18444 is a reply to message #18443] Fri, 15 March 2013 15:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kustom_Bart is currently offline  Kustom_Bart
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It's like I tell everyone else, find one and because of condition and color it is still worth double of a black. And 1500.00 is a good price for a red k100??? holy crap my mint one must be worth 2K

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Re: What is it worth? [message #18445 is a reply to message #18425] Fri, 15 March 2013 15:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm not sure about double, but it does yield a higher price, as far as that red k100 who knew! i know i wouldn't pay that, and i know you wouldn't either Smile

Re: What is it worth? [message #18446 is a reply to message #18442] Fri, 15 March 2013 15:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kustom_Bart wrote on Fri, 15 March 2013 14:57
I still don't think they are exact. Radio shack has some, but they aren't exact either. those look really close but, it would have to be for a smooth shaft and use a set screw to hold it on. The D shaped ones are only for the metal faced amps.


You're right, the Radio Shack knobs are way too different. But the Cosmo knobs are smooth shaft with a setscrew. I'm not sure about the Little Bear knobs. I have a bunch of Cosmos that were part of that original order back in 2001, and I can't tell the difference from the originals.


www.combo-organ.com
Re: What is it worth? [message #18447 is a reply to message #18425] Fri, 15 March 2013 16:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yeah those bear knobs are great replacements, I have them on many of my amps, cant tell the difference.

Re: What is it worth? [message #18448 is a reply to message #18447] Fri, 15 March 2013 16:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have never had to really look for any as I always had spares or one of my buddy's did. The Little bears look perfect, but there has to be a different part number as the one given says they are for a knurled shaft. That is a good deal on them as well. I am not sure that the Rick knobs are still the same today as they were 12 years ago, possibly made cheaper now.

I like these even better, you can match the color of your amp!

http://www.smallbearelec.com/servlet/Detail?no=1112

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Re: What is it worth? [message #18449 is a reply to message #18448] Fri, 15 March 2013 16:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have used the knobs from Small Bear Electronics - near perfect match !!
Re: What is it worth? [message #18450 is a reply to message #18438] Fri, 15 March 2013 19:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The push on D shaft Knobs, the marker dot is in a different position, so if you use the D shaft knobs on a plexi face the marker dot isn't at 0 when the control is off.
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Re: What is it worth? [message #21269 is a reply to message #18425] Mon, 25 August 2014 16:11 Go to previous message
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Whatever you can get for it Smile
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