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| Re: CCR Amp $57,0000 [message #21997 is a reply to message #21996] |
Sun, 21 December 2014 00:55   |
chicagobill
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I remember when this amp was being discussed here. The owner made a fairly good case for it being real or at least looking real. The price is what it is, I guess.
Maybe Steve worked on it for the guy.
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| Re: CCR Amp $57,0000 [message #21998 is a reply to message #21996] |
Sun, 21 December 2014 07:19 |
stevem
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Well when a Clapton Strat can fetch 3/4 mill, why not!
Yes, and that is the amp I went tru for that guy over two years ago now, dam I should have changed him a ton more for the repair! Lol
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| Re: CCR Amp $57,0000 [message #22014 is a reply to message #21996] |
Mon, 22 December 2014 18:07 |
chicagobill
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As I recall the earlier discussion, this amp was supposed to have been his backup head that was stacked on stage with his main amp. That's why he still has his main amp and this one was in storage.
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| Re: CCR Amp $57,0000 [message #22087 is a reply to message #21996] |
Tue, 13 January 2015 13:39 |
edtaylor
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it's been a number of years...but we were handling CCR (Revisited) on a stage and that included hosting them ...driving from airport to hotel, etc.. Deb had special duty to haul Tristao around..he has a thing for motorcycles and wanted to kill some time at the local harley shop..anyway...in the van, raised the issue of Kustoms....they had a non-original keyboard guy who was clueless, but Stu spoke up and chuckled..said...yeah.. I think I've still got a couple of those amps buried in one of my storage buildings... it was just endorsement stuff to him back then...I've no doubt that there were a number of kustom rigs that made it to a stage at some point as rental stock when a CCR was touring...so the odds are that John and Stu may have played the ebay rigs...just doesn't make em personal stock.. probably the only kustom worth that kind of money is the one that comes with the optional Sherry Crow perched on top of it...you older kustom guys know the picture I'm referencing.
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| Re: CCR Amp $57,0000 [message #22093 is a reply to message #22088] |
Wed, 14 January 2015 16:42 |
edtaylor
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you're likey right...conversation didn't get that deep about it...we had just joked on the way form the airport that we could have put kustoms on their stage for that concert to make it look like the orginal years...the keyboardist said something like "what's a kustom?" and that's when Stuf spoke up...
he also bout broke my heart when he said that he really never cared that much for the way they sounded...but that was about all there was to the conversation...I'd have to go back now and look at the rider to remember what bass rig he asked for that night... I do remember Elliot Eastman's rig specs as they were quite unusual..he ordered a pair of PV EVH 5150 heads on top of 2 slant marshall cabs with vintage loads and he played a stock tele that night...got some great tone, covered all Johns solo work and then took a few licks of his own...nice addition to the band..Tristao can cop Fogerty's vox, but he can' play guitar worth a lick, so he uses one as a prop and Elliot covers the real work.,,
sorry no more history..just sharing a brief experience with the boys...
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| Re: CCR Amp $57,0000 [message #22103 is a reply to message #22094] |
Thu, 15 January 2015 11:20 |
edtaylor
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yep... I was speechless at that point...and I do agree, those Sunn cabs were amazing.. I was mostly guitar back then, didn't start playing bass til some years later..but I recall one of our guys had that big 2x15..he even had a guitar hanger that laid across the top so you could hang your bass in front of the speaker on it...I never owned any Sunn stuff..it was Fender silver face and kustoms that rocked my world..still does of course.
I do have a couple of those big 400 heads.. wouldn't want to carry em around for weekly gigs, but pretty cool.
when I did used to play bass regularly I'd run a Boss bass eq pedal in front of the kustom head..gave me a lot more tonal control and really spiced up the rig..the kustom amp is fine, just kinda bland, but it takes really well to fx up front and my 200 head into a pair of 2x15 kustom cabs served me well for many years..
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| Re: CCR Amp $57,0000 [message #22144 is a reply to message #21996] |
Sun, 18 January 2015 08:00 |
stevem
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No need at all for a for a battle as the electronic factors speak for themselves, for a simple informative example just go to Shavano music online site and check it out seing as you do not seem to belive me!
Just bring these facts with you, being that a k200 power section of which the k400 has two will output 92 watts rms into 4 ohm load.
It will output 65.5 watts rms into a 8 ohm load and then into a 16 ohm load it will be down to only 36 watts of clean power!
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| Re: CCR Amp $57,0000 [message #22149 is a reply to message #22146] |
Sun, 18 January 2015 16:18 |
Iowa Boy
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I can't help but laugh when anyone challenges Stevem..........its a losing battle. He has the "tech" knowledge on his side and doesn't see the equipment the same way us ordinary musicians do. We don't care about loads, wattages and all that other things that make an amp operated like it was designed to do. We look at it for looks and the sound we get out of it......whether its wired right or wrong.....and usually wrong, then we wonder why things keep blowing on the amp. Been there done that. Anyway you look at it, the vintage stuff from back in the 60's no matter who it was that built it....Kustom, Gibson, Sunn, Ampeg, Accoustic....was and is still all good in my opinion. Doubtful that anything on the market today will still be up and running 40 years from now.
So no matter what we personally like or prefer.......That's a personal choice; how well or how long it continues to operate, depends on how the equipment is matched up to spec's. I for one am sure glad the guys on here know the tech part since I would rather play the equipment than constantly have it in the shop for repairs because I had the wrong speakers connected to the wrong amp head. I now call that beer money. lol Just my 2 cents worth.
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| Re: CCR Amp $57,0000 [message #22150 is a reply to message #21996] |
Sun, 18 January 2015 16:36 |
edtaylor
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long time ago, some of our gang had these discussions...one of things that i did notice from the older design kustoms..was that for all of 100 watts, they were punchier, stronger..ie perceptably better than some other gear...
for example (and I'm not knocking PV here)..but years back I wound up with a CS400 power amp for all of $20..so I figured..hey..great...400 watts vs 200 peak whatever from my old Kustom bass head..but in the end, I did not get a perceptable level increase nor presence from the added wattage of the amp...granted, those 2x15 ported cabs are only going to breath so much...many factors I know...anyway..for many many many years me, with a 200 head and a pair of 2x15 cabs made a lot of money as a bass sideman...the amp itself endured many road trips, some falls out of the back of a trailer, heck my dad even fell down the front porch steps carrying it one night..broke his foot..amp took a couple bounces...no problem...but then we all know this about our beloveds.
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