casters [message #17232] |
Mon, 25 June 2012 15:47 ![Go to next message Go to next message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/down.png) |
bertaire
Messages: 34 Registered: April 2012 Location: burbank california
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I have a real nice twin 12 Kustom combo all oak last out of the chanute factory before they sold it. would love to have original caster info if anyone knows. This amp is very heavy. It has celestion g80's and 4 power tubes (maybe 100 watt ) not sure.
webboard or email direct.....bertaire@yahoo.com
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Re: casters [message #17342 is a reply to message #17232] |
Sat, 04 August 2012 16:57 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/down.png) |
bass nazi
Messages: 8 Registered: August 2012 Location: southern california
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I just purchased a 73 era bass 250 with matching 2-15 cabinet.
I am in the process of having it professionally recovered, and bought new screws, washers, etc to make it like new.
The cabinet is very heavy and I was thinking of adding casters, but it has never had them installed. First, what is the best match out there? Second, do I need any kind of mounting plate, or do they just screw right to the bottom of the cabinet?
Also, and although the grill cloth has no tears, I was thinking of replacing it as well. Any suggestions for a close replacement?
Thanks!
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Re: casters [message #17351 is a reply to message #17343] |
Wed, 08 August 2012 17:50 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/down.png) |
bass nazi
Messages: 8 Registered: August 2012 Location: southern california
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Thanks for the response Steve.
So if I understand you correctly, I have to add the mounting plates under the vinyl at the bottom of the cabinet, and screw the casters through the vinyl to the mounting plates (which in turn are attached to the wood cabinet). Is this correct?
Regarding the grill cloth, it is not a standard black, but more of a mesh that is almost a silver and black mix (its at the upholsterers right now so I am not able to look at it and explain).
Also, the original speakers must CTS brand, as they do not have the aluminum dust caps that you would see on a JBL or Altec Lancing speaker.
The speakers are coded 038 0024 00 137 7343, which I see on the forum that this cabinet was built in October of '73.
The speakers are in good shape other than having some rust and corrosion on the baskets, but I was contemplating changing them to a new vintage JBL to give the system a little better sound.
What are your thoughts on this? Am I destroying the value?
I know some guys are really hung up on keeping everything as original as possible.
Thanks,
T
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Re: casters [message #17371 is a reply to message #17359] |
Sun, 19 August 2012 00:21 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/down.png) |
bass nazi
Messages: 8 Registered: August 2012 Location: southern california
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Thanks Pleat,
I went to pick up the head and cabinet from the upholsterer on Friday (after telling me 2 days he had it 2 weeks!), and I was not satisfied with the job, so he is redoing it and says it will be ready Monday afternoon.
I did look at the grill cloth, and it does have silver thread in a checkerboard pattern laced into the black.
When I get it back I will take the baffle off an get it to the car wash.
There is no taper to the cabinet, so I guess its a K250 cabinet.
The head cabinet does however taper back.
I checked on Ebay, and the cost of a pair of JBL's is a down payment on a house!
I checked with Orange County Speaker, and they say if I send them a blown JBL, the will recone and make like new for $140. But even the blown JBL's on Ebay are $75 + shipping.
So it seems that if I go with JBLs' I will have $500-600 just in speakers.
I am considering the Altec 421's, but I am not sure how they sound.
I am also considering a pair of Eminence Delta 15's.
I have a pair of them in my Acoustic rig and they really sound great, but I was hoping to use something more original.
Regardless of what I use I will set it up for a 4 Ohm load.
Decisions decisions!
Thanks,
T
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Re: casters [message #17372 is a reply to message #17232] |
Sun, 19 August 2012 07:54 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/down.png) |
stevem
Messages: 4768 Registered: June 2004 Location: NY
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I have many 2-15 cabs, both Altec loaded and JBL and both sound great.
The Altes will make the cab weigh more than the JBLs due to their large(421 type) ceramic type magnets, but they go up higher in frequecy and be use for Guitar or Keyboard even, but I find them also much better tone wise if you play any slap/pop type bass!
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Re: casters [message #17375 is a reply to message #17374] |
Sun, 19 August 2012 12:24 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/down.png) |
bass nazi
Messages: 8 Registered: August 2012 Location: southern california
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Well being a bassist, it's obvious that I will want to use the D140's or the 421's.
Bart, funny you mentioned the Eminence, because I am also considering putting in a pair of Eminence Delta's, but I am not sure how they will sound in this cabinet.
They are much cheaper than the JBL or Altec, and they would be brand new.
What are your thoughts on this?
Thanks,
T
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Re: casters [message #17377 is a reply to message #17375] |
Sun, 19 August 2012 21:20 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/down.png) |
Kustom_Bart
Messages: 601 Registered: October 2010 Location: Greenville, MichiGUN
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The eminence I have were bout 140 ea and have cast frames, don't scrimp too much and buy stamped frames if you are using them for low end. The cast frame models just hold up so much longer and better. The D-140's and D-130' and 7 Altec 418's that I have are all like 40 years old. I have Jensen's and all of the other Kustom models too, but I have had plenty of stamped framed speakers that needed re-coned. and only two Altec that I bought that aren't Kustom speakers (421's) that were 8 Ohm that I found kits and re-coned myself and have about 110 ea into them. If you are handy you can re-cone these speakers yourself and buy the kits much cheaper than having it done. I think our shop gets 110 for a 15" re-cone here in our area.
I just read your post again and you are a bassist. I got Eminence CB158 speakers in my subs and they are made for lowwwww down. I got mine at parts express and they have gone down in price 10.00 here is a link http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=290- 497 this is what you need 300W each and weigh 20 lbs each 2 1/2" voice coil, 47Hz-3000Hz and they are sweet. I have them and they are the bomb. Reasonable priced too.
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Re: casters [message #17379 is a reply to message #17377] |
Mon, 20 August 2012 17:23 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/down.png) |
bass nazi
Messages: 8 Registered: August 2012 Location: southern california
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Bart, YEA!
I had forgotten about the Legend series Eminence has.
I ordered two of them last night. They will be here by the end of the week, just in time for me to install them and maybe use the rig for a gig we are doing this Saturday night.
That was a great call, thanks!
T
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Re:thinning the herd [message #17380 is a reply to message #17378] |
Mon, 20 August 2012 17:27 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/FUDforum/theme/vk30/images/down.png) |
bass nazi
Messages: 8 Registered: August 2012 Location: southern california
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Bertaire,
Thanks for the heads up, I will keep it in mind.
As you can see per Bart's suggestion I have ordered Eminence Legend's for this cab.
Can't wait to pick it up from the upholsterers and get everything back together.
Will post pics as soon as its complete.
Thanks guys!
T
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